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Puzzles

Lars Hanson
 

All,

    For those interested in brain teasers, the New York Times crossword puzzle editor, Will Shortz, has begun running two new puzzle series in the Times.  In addition to the daily crossword and to daily sudoku puzzles (one 4x4, the other 6x6 — 5x5 and 7x7 on Sundays), The patter now runs a daily “Brain Tickler” and two “Two Not Touch” puzzles.

    The “Brain Ticklers” often resemble Rogue Riddles in style and content.

    Aloha,

        Lars

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Re: Rogue Riddle Demise?

Marilyn Van Driesen
 

I am there with Norman and Maynard.  I love puns and limericks, but the riddles are far beyond me. Marilyn







On Monday, May 4, 2020, 09:25:16 AM CDT, punpunpun <punpunpun@...> wrote:


as a lurker in the main, I must agree that the 
Rogues have been too difficult to spend more than a ‘quick’ look to see if they deserve more than that. I love word play but lotsa times I don’t “get it”.
So the Rogue gets a quick glance and then on to the next. (Whatever)
So, my thoughts, are to make Rogues easier to solve or follow and to carry on with doing stuff to keep us together/united.
Norman



On May 4, 2020, at 2:09 AM, Ray Maynard <ray@...> wrote:

I'll just offer this as an independent opinion from one clearly not one of the elites in this group. For me, the Rogue Riddles are simply way over my head. I looked at the first few of them that I saw and quickly concluded that "these guys are in the stratosphere somewhere." I simply don't get them, so I don't participate. I enjoy puns. That's why I'm a member of the group, but the riddles are just way beyond my comprehension level. Perhaps that's the real reason for the lack of participation, or at least part of it.

Ray Maynard
ray@...

On 5/3/2020 12:04, doug via groups.io wrote:
what about offering a small prize to each week's winner, like a $5 gift card to Starbucks (I send these all the time via email for my business)


-----Original Message-----
From: Lars Hanson <parkersan2001@...>
To: PUNY <main@puny.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, May 3, 2020 1:49 pm
Subject: [puny] Rogue Riddle Demise?

All,

    There seems to be some sort of misapprehension her about my and Kirk's statement on the Rogue Riddles.

    Neither Kirk nor I have any particular desire to see the Rogue Riddles end.  Nor have we any particular desire to kill off the Rogue Riddles.  If anything, it is the general lack of participation in the riddles which is killing them off.

    However, given the past several weeks during which Kirk and I simply traded Rogue Riddle sets with little or no participation by anyone else, and perfunctory other participation at best, it seemed yo us the game was dead.  Our conclusion that perhaps the Rogue Riddles have seen their day was based upon that lack of participation, and was not the result of any sinister motivations on our parts.

    It takes time and effort to create and then administrate a Rogue Riddle series.  The more interesting and intriguing the riddles are, the more time and effort is required.  That time and effort is rewarded by the responses from the players.  No responses, no reward.  Quite frankly, if only one other person really is into the game, then it seems the game is dead. Hence our notes here.

    If someone wants to continue the game, that's perfectly fine with me (and, I suspect, with Kirk).  I have enjoyed and been an avid participant in the riddles since they began as an off-list Riddle Chain over twenty years ago.  If others want to see the Rogue Riddles continue, then the best remedy is to participate.

    Aloha,

        Lars

=================================


--
Doug Spector

Re: Rogue Riddle Demise?

punpunpun
 

as a lurker in the main, I must agree that the 
Rogues have been too difficult to spend more than a ‘quick’ look to see if they deserve more than that. I love word play but lotsa times I don’t “get it”.
So the Rogue gets a quick glance and then on to the next. (Whatever)
So, my thoughts, are to make Rogues easier to solve or follow and to carry on with doing stuff to keep us together/united.
Norman



On May 4, 2020, at 2:09 AM, Ray Maynard <ray@...> wrote:

I'll just offer this as an independent opinion from one clearly not one of the elites in this group. For me, the Rogue Riddles are simply way over my head. I looked at the first few of them that I saw and quickly concluded that "these guys are in the stratosphere somewhere." I simply don't get them, so I don't participate. I enjoy puns. That's why I'm a member of the group, but the riddles are just way beyond my comprehension level. Perhaps that's the real reason for the lack of participation, or at least part of it.

Ray Maynard
ray@...

On 5/3/2020 12:04, doug via groups.io wrote:
what about offering a small prize to each week's winner, like a $5 gift card to Starbucks (I send these all the time via email for my business)


-----Original Message-----
From: Lars Hanson <parkersan2001@...>
To: PUNY <main@puny.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, May 3, 2020 1:49 pm
Subject: [puny] Rogue Riddle Demise?

All,

    There seems to be some sort of misapprehension her about my and Kirk's statement on the Rogue Riddles.

    Neither Kirk nor I have any particular desire to see the Rogue Riddles end.  Nor have we any particular desire to kill off the Rogue Riddles.  If anything, it is the general lack of participation in the riddles which is killing them off.

    However, given the past several weeks during which Kirk and I simply traded Rogue Riddle sets with little or no participation by anyone else, and perfunctory other participation at best, it seemed yo us the game was dead.  Our conclusion that perhaps the Rogue Riddles have seen their day was based upon that lack of participation, and was not the result of any sinister motivations on our parts.

    It takes time and effort to create and then administrate a Rogue Riddle series.  The more interesting and intriguing the riddles are, the more time and effort is required.  That time and effort is rewarded by the responses from the players.  No responses, no reward.  Quite frankly, if only one other person really is into the game, then it seems the game is dead. Hence our notes here.

    If someone wants to continue the game, that's perfectly fine with me (and, I suspect, with Kirk).  I have enjoyed and been an avid participant in the riddles since they began as an off-list Riddle Chain over twenty years ago.  If others want to see the Rogue Riddles continue, then the best remedy is to participate.

    Aloha,

        Lars

=================================


--
Doug Spector


Re: Rogue Riddle Demise?

doug
 

I'm with Ray. Sometimes, I maynard understand the riddles that seem to be coming from another atmosphere...I guess we're on the wrong plane

Doug S.


-----Original Message-----
From: Ray Maynard <ray@...>
To: main@puny.groups.io; parkersan2001@... <parkersan2001@...>
Sent: Mon, May 4, 2020 1:09 am
Subject: Re: [puny] Rogue Riddle Demise?

I'll just offer this as an independent opinion from one clearly not one of the elites in this group. For me, the Rogue Riddles are simply way over my head. I looked at the first few of them that I saw and quickly concluded that "these guys are in the stratosphere somewhere." I simply don't get them, so I don't participate. I enjoy puns. That's why I'm a member of the group, but the riddles are just way beyond my comprehension level. Perhaps that's the real reason for the lack of participation, or at least part of it.

Ray Maynard
ray@...

On 5/3/2020 12:04, doug via groups.io wrote:
what about offering a small prize to each week's winner, like a $5 gift card to Starbucks (I send these all the time via email for my business)


-----Original Message-----
From: Lars Hanson <parkersan2001@...>
To: PUNY <main@puny.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, May 3, 2020 1:49 pm
Subject: [puny] Rogue Riddle Demise?

All,

    There seems to be some sort of misapprehension her about my and Kirk's statement on the Rogue Riddles.

    Neither Kirk nor I have any particular desire to see the Rogue Riddles end.  Nor have we any particular desire to kill off the Rogue Riddles.  If anything, it is the general lack of participation in the riddles which is killing them off.

    However, given the past several weeks during which Kirk and I simply traded Rogue Riddle sets with little or no participation by anyone else, and perfunctory other participation at best, it seemed yo us the game was dead.  Our conclusion that perhaps the Rogue Riddles have seen their day was based upon that lack of participation, and was not the result of any sinister motivations on our parts.

    It takes time and effort to create and then administrate a Rogue Riddle series.  The more interesting and intriguing the riddles are, the more time and effort is required.  That time and effort is rewarded by the responses from the players.  No responses, no reward.  Quite frankly, if only one other person really is into the game, then it seems the game is dead. Hence our notes here.

    If someone wants to continue the game, that's perfectly fine with me (and, I suspect, with Kirk).  I have enjoyed and been an avid participant in the riddles since they began as an off-list Riddle Chain over twenty years ago.  If others want to see the Rogue Riddles continue, then the best remedy is to participate.

    Aloha,

        Lars

=================================


--
Doug Spector

--
Doug Spector

Re: Rogue Riddle Demise?

Ray Maynard
 

I'll just offer this as an independent opinion from one clearly not one of the elites in this group. For me, the Rogue Riddles are simply way over my head. I looked at the first few of them that I saw and quickly concluded that "these guys are in the stratosphere somewhere." I simply don't get them, so I don't participate. I enjoy puns. That's why I'm a member of the group, but the riddles are just way beyond my comprehension level. Perhaps that's the real reason for the lack of participation, or at least part of it.

Ray Maynard
ray@...

On 5/3/2020 12:04, doug via groups.io wrote:
what about offering a small prize to each week's winner, like a $5 gift card to Starbucks (I send these all the time via email for my business)


-----Original Message-----
From: Lars Hanson <parkersan2001@...>
To: PUNY <main@puny.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, May 3, 2020 1:49 pm
Subject: [puny] Rogue Riddle Demise?

All,

    There seems to be some sort of misapprehension her about my and Kirk's statement on the Rogue Riddles.

    Neither Kirk nor I have any particular desire to see the Rogue Riddles end.  Nor have we any particular desire to kill off the Rogue Riddles.  If anything, it is the general lack of participation in the riddles which is killing them off.

    However, given the past several weeks during which Kirk and I simply traded Rogue Riddle sets with little or no participation by anyone else, and perfunctory other participation at best, it seemed yo us the game was dead.  Our conclusion that perhaps the Rogue Riddles have seen their day was based upon that lack of participation, and was not the result of any sinister motivations on our parts.

    It takes time and effort to create and then administrate a Rogue Riddle series.  The more interesting and intriguing the riddles are, the more time and effort is required.  That time and effort is rewarded by the responses from the players.  No responses, no reward.  Quite frankly, if only one other person really is into the game, then it seems the game is dead. Hence our notes here.

    If someone wants to continue the game, that's perfectly fine with me (and, I suspect, with Kirk).  I have enjoyed and been an avid participant in the riddles since they began as an off-list Riddle Chain over twenty years ago.  If others want to see the Rogue Riddles continue, then the best remedy is to participate.

    Aloha,

        Lars

=================================


--
Doug Spector

Re: Rogue Riddle Demise?

doug
 

what about offering a small prize to each week's winner, like a $5 gift card to Starbucks (I send these all the time via email for my business)


-----Original Message-----
From: Lars Hanson <parkersan2001@...>
To: PUNY <main@puny.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, May 3, 2020 1:49 pm
Subject: [puny] Rogue Riddle Demise?

All,

    There seems to be some sort of misapprehension her about my and Kirk's statement on the Rogue Riddles.

    Neither Kirk nor I have any particular desire to see the Rogue Riddles end.  Nor have we any particular desire to kill off the Rogue Riddles.  If anything, it is the general lack of participation in the riddles which is killing them off.

    However, given the past several weeks during which Kirk and I simply traded Rogue Riddle sets with little or no participation by anyone else, and perfunctory other participation at best, it seemed yo us the game was dead.  Our conclusion that perhaps the Rogue Riddles have seen their day was based upon that lack of participation, and was not the result of any sinister motivations on our parts.

    It takes time and effort to create and then administrate a Rogue Riddle series.  The more interesting and intriguing the riddles are, the more time and effort is required.  That time and effort is rewarded by the responses from the players.  No responses, no reward.  Quite frankly, if only one other person really is into the game, then it seems the game is dead. Hence our notes here.

    If someone wants to continue the game, that's perfectly fine with me (and, I suspect, with Kirk).  I have enjoyed and been an avid participant in the riddles since they began as an off-list Riddle Chain over twenty years ago.  If others want to see the Rogue Riddles continue, then the best remedy is to participate.

    Aloha,

        Lars

=================================


--
Doug Spector

Rogue Riddle Demise?

Lars Hanson
 

All,

    There seems to be some sort of misapprehension her about my and Kirk's statement on the Rogue Riddles.

    Neither Kirk nor I have any particular desire to see the Rogue Riddles end.  Nor have we any particular desire to kill off the Rogue Riddles.  If anything, it is the general lack of participation in the riddles which is killing them off.

    However, given the past several weeks during which Kirk and I simply traded Rogue Riddle sets with little or no participation by anyone else, and perfunctory other participation at best, it seemed yo us the game was dead.  Our conclusion that perhaps the Rogue Riddles have seen their day was based upon that lack of participation, and was not the result of any sinister motivations on our parts.

    It takes time and effort to create and then administrate a Rogue Riddle series.  The more interesting and intriguing the riddles are, the more time and effort is required.  That time and effort is rewarded by the responses from the players.  No responses, no reward.  Quite frankly, if only one other person really is into the game, then it seems the game is dead. Hence our notes here.

    If someone wants to continue the game, that's perfectly fine with me (and, I suspect, with Kirk).  I have enjoyed and been an avid participant in the riddles since they began as an off-list Riddle Chain over twenty years ago.  If others want to see the Rogue Riddles continue, then the best remedy is to participate.

    Aloha,

        Lars

=================================

Rogue Riddle 1022 -- Status 2 -- #RogueRiddle

Lars Hanson
 

All,

 

    The riddles are falling quickly!  Currently four players are active, and three of the four already have solved the bonus question.  

 

    Any more players out there?

 

    Riddle stats (4 players):

 

     4 correct –  3:   1, 8, 15

     3 correct –  7:   4, 7, 12, 13, 16, 17, 20

     2 correct –  6:   2, 3, 9, 11, 14, 18

      1 correct –  4:   3, 6, 10, 19

     0 correct –  0:   

 No guesses –  0:   

 

<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 

 

Rogue Riddle #1022

Final Potpourri

 

    What’s in a name?  Many things.  To simplify things, initially one might well look for the bonus answer, particularly in this potpourri.  Something to keep in mind while attacking this week’s offering . . . .

 

    This week’s Rogue Riddle consists of twenty riddles plus a final bonus.  Each riddle has two answers which sound similar.  Both answers are required for full credit   And there are six Spoonerisms thrown in for good measure. As an example of homophones:

 

Q: She decided that pennies, too, should have knurled edges.  Thus did BLANK   become the first person to BLANK.

A:  MILLICENT / MILL A CENT

 

    One “BLANK” is uses for each answer, where needed. Note that the indicator BLANK may stand in for one or more words.  Also, note that the BLANK may be preceded by the article “a.”  This provides no indication of whether or not the word or words the BLANK replaces begins with a vowel or silent “h.”

 

    As always, effort has gone into the setup wording to provide necessary clues.

 

    The riddle will run until 5:00 p.m. EST on Tuesday.  As usual, the first person to solve all the riddles will be declared the winner.  If no one has solved all the riddles by 5:00 p.m. EST on Wednesday, the one with the most correct answers will be declared the winner.

 

    Now, on to the riddles.

 

<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 

 

1.  Why is house cooling like preparing one’s offspring to take over after one has gone?  Both are BLANK  BLANK.

 

2.  What is the difference between a WW II amphibious vehicle and a sneaky landfall by a pirate?

 

3.  What is the difference between a post office locker and tastier smoked salmon?  One is a BLANK while the other is BLANK.

 

4.  It turned out he sewing simply was not strong enough, so the garment opened up revealingly, to the embarrassment of the wearer.  It appeared the BLANK had not adequately allowed for BLANK when sewing the garment.

 

5.  The artistic chef liked to create visually stunning plates of food.  For one memorable meal he arranged various greens in the shape of a castle donjon, and then carefully arranged croutons to represent the surrounding battlements, thus becoming the first to create a BLANK.

 

6.  Women can be sensitive about their figure, as many a man has learned through experience.  This posed a problem for the husband, who was asked to buy BLANK outfits for his wife, but was afraid to BLANK.

 

7.  During World War I, this famous Brit in the Middle East was famous as a landlord who never charged his tenants very much.  Indeed, the BLANK of BLANK were well known throughout the region.

 

8.  The big cat had a habit of resting sprawled across the warm macadam roadway, blocking the narrow street.  This impeded foot traffic as many were afraid to disturb the BLANK  BLANK.

 

9.  The artistic chef had watched in fascination as people filled glasses to various levels, then ran moistened fingers along their rims to produce musical notes.  The notes differed depending upon the sizes of the glasses and how full they were.  He decided he might be able to achieve the same effect with a baking dish, and finally succeeded, becoming the first person to BLANK.

 

10.  The container woven of stiff fibers in Montana had the unfortunate name of BLANK. 

 

11.  In an effort to improve his aim, the archer carefully studied BLANK.

 

12.  The bird fanciers were capturing shorebirds, but alternated among themselves in doing so.  They were BLANK  BLANK.

 

13.  Tennis player Chris was searching in her capacious tennis bag.  Her difficulties caused BLANK to BLANK the bag. 

 

14.  The young bird was snuggling cozily in its arboreal abode.  It could be described as a BLANK  BLANK. 

 

15.  What is the difference between a soft ice cream store and a college official charged with responding to questions?  One is a BLANK while the other is the BLANK.

 

16.  What is the difference between a winter installation and convenience shop in a college residential building?  One is a BLANK while the other is a BLANK.

 

17.  What is the difference between a type of boot and a tattletale?  One is a BLANK while the other is a BLANK.

 

18.  What is the difference between the tympanic membrane and a pirate’s cherished beverage?  One is a BLANK while the other is a BLANK.

 

19.  In her beau’s eyes, she seemed to shine, to glow, but seeing her the morning after a drunken party she had BLANK  BLANK in his eyes.

 

20.  He was a strange young lad, always getting into mischief in the kitchen.  He was particularly intrigued by smearing animal fat all over the pantry.  Yes, he had become a BLANK  BLANK. 

 

BONUS:  Use the first letters of the answers above in order to spell the title of an appropriate Shakespearean play. 

 

<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 

 

    As always, it would be great to see some new faces this week!  

 

    Please remember to ensure your answers are directed to me.  You should be able just to hit “Reply” (thanks, Norm!),  but to be sure you may address all guesses, surmises, suppositions, estimates, conjectures, SWAG’s, stabs, pokes, and other such directly to me at:

 

parkersan2001@...

 

    Aloha,

        Lars

=================================

Rogue Riddle 1022 - Status 1

Lars Hanson
 

All,

 

    Well, this week's Rogue Riddle is off to a flying start!  Jim was first to weigh in, killing a quarter of the riddles, followed closely by One Sagan with nine kills and Gary H. with 8 kills and 3 partials.  

 

    Riddle stats (3 players):

 

     3 correct –  1:   1

     2 correct –  6:   4, 8, 13, 14, 15, 20

      1 correct –  7:   2, 7, 10, 11, 16, 17, 18,

     0 correct –  6:   3, 5, 6, 9, 12, 19

 No guesses –  2:   5, 6 

 

<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 

 

Rogue Riddle #1022

Final Potpourri

 

    What’s in a name?  Many things.  To simplify things, initially one might well look for the bonus answer, particularly in this potpourri.  Something to keep in mind while attacking this week’s offering . . . .

 

    This week’s Rogue Riddle consists of twenty riddles plus a final bonus.  Each riddle has two answers which sound similar.  Both answers are required for full credit   And there are six Spoonerisms thrown in for good measure. As an example of homophones:

 

Q: She decided that pennies, too, should have knurled edges.  Thus did BLANK   become the first person to BLANK.

A:  MILLICENT / MILL A CENT

 

    One “BLANK” is uses for each answer, where needed. Note that the indicator BLANK may stand in for one or more words.  Also, note that the BLANK may be preceded by the article “a.”  This provides no indication of whether or not the word or words the BLANK replaces begins with a vowel or silent “h.”

 

    As always, effort has gone into the setup wording to provide necessary clues.

 

    The riddle will run until 5:00 p.m. EST on Tuesday.  As usual, the first person to solve all the riddles will be declared the winner.  If no one has solved all the riddles by 5:00 p.m. EST on Wednesday, the one with the most correct answers will be declared the winner.

 

    Now, on to the riddles.

 

<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 

 

1.  Why is house cooling like preparing one’s offspring to take over after one has gone?  Both are BLANK  BLANK.

 

2.  What is the difference between a WW II amphibious vehicle and a sneaky landfall by a pirate?

 

3.  What is the difference between a post office locker and tastier smoked salmon?  One is a BLANK while the other is BLANK.

 

4.  It turned out he sewing simply was not strong enough, so the garment opened up revealingly, to the embarrassment of the wearer.  It appeared the BLANK had not adequately allowed for BLANK when sewing the garment.

 

5.  The artistic chef liked to create visually stunning plates of food.  For one memorable meal he arranged various greens in the shape of a castle donjon, and then carefully arranged croutons to represent the surrounding battlements, thus becoming the first to create a BLANK.

 

6.  Women can be sensitive about their figure, as many a man has learned through experience.  This posed a problem for the husband, who was asked to buy BLANK outfits for his wife, but was afraid to BLANK.

 

7.  During World War I, this famous Brit in the Middle East was famous as a landlord who never charged his tenants very much.  Indeed, the BLANK of BLANK were well known throughout the region.

 

 

8.  The big cat had a habit of resting sprawled across the warm macadam roadway, blocking the narrow street.  This impeded foot traffic as many were afraid to disturb the BLANK  BLANK.

 

9.  The artistic chef had watched in fascination as people filled glasses to various levels, then ran moistened fingers along their rims to produce musical notes.  The notes differed depending upon the sizes of the glasses and how full they were.  He decided he might be able to achieve the same effect with a baking dish, and finally succeeded, becoming the first person to BLANK.

 

10.  The container woven of stiff fibers in Montana had the unfortunate name of BLANK. 

 

11.  In an effort to improve his aim, the archer carefully studied BLANK.

 

12.  The bird fanciers were capturing shorebirds, but alternated among themselves in doing so.  They were BLANK  BLANK.

 

13.  Tennis player Chris was searching in her capacious tennis bag.  Her difficulties caused BLANK to BLANK the bag. 

 

14.  The young bird was snuggling cozily in its arboreal abode.  It could be described as a BLANK  BLANK. 

 

15.  What is the difference between a soft ice cream store and a college official charged with responding to questions?  One is a BLANK while the other is the BLANK.

 

16.  What is the difference between a winter installation and convenience shop in a college residential building?  One is a BLANK while the other is a BLANK.

 

17.  What is the difference between a type of boot and a tattletale?  One is a BLANK while the other is a BLANK.

 

18.  What is the difference between the tympanic membrane and a pirate’s cherished beverage?  One is a BLANK while the other is a BLANK.

 

19.  In her beau’s eyes, she seemed to shine, to glow, but seeing her the morning after a drunken party she had BLANK  BLANK in his eyes.

 

20.  He was a strange young lad, always getting into mischief in the kitchen.  He was particularly intrigued by smearing animal fat all over the pantry.  Yes, he had become a BLANK  BLANK. 

 

BONUS:  Use the first letters of the answers above in order to spell the title of an appropriate Shakespearean play. 

 

<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 

 

    As always, it would be great to see some new faces this week!  

 

    Please remember to ensure your answers are directed to me.  You should be able just to hit “Reply” (thanks, Norm!),  but to be sure you may address all guesses, surmises, suppositions, estimates, conjectures, SWAG’s, stabs, pokes, and other such directly to me at:

 

parkersan2001@...

 

    Aloha,

        Lars

=================================

Rogue Riddle 1022 -- Final Potpourri -- #RogueRiddle

Lars Hanson
 



All,

 

    Herewith is this week's Rogue Riddle collection.  As has been discussed, it appears that after a run of more than 19½  years, this will be the last of the Rogue Riddles.

 

<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 

 

Rogue Riddle #1022

Final Potpourri

 

    What’s in a name?  Many things.  To simplify things, initially one might well look for the usual suspects, particularly in this potpourri.  Something to keep in mind while attacking this week’s offering . . . .

 

    This week’s Rogue Riddle consists of twenty riddles plus a final bonus.  Each riddle has two answers which sound similar.  Both answers are required for full credit   And there are six Spoonerisms thrown in for good measure. As an example of homophones:

 

Q: She decided that pennies, too, should have knurled edges.  Thus did BLANK   become the first person to BLANK.

A:  MILLICENT / MILL A CENT

 

    One “BLANK” is uses for each answer, where needed. Note that the indicator BLANK may stand in for one or more words.  Also, note that the BLANK may be preceded by the article “a.”  This provides no indication of whether or not the word or words the BLANK replaces begins with a vowel or silent “h.”

 

    As always, effort has gone into the setup wording to provide necessary clues.

 

    The riddle will run until 5:00 p.m. EST on Tuesday.  As usual, the first person to solve all the riddles will be declared the winner.  If no one has solved all the riddles by 5:00 p.m. EST on Wednesday, the one with the most correct answers will be declared the winner.

 

    Now, on to the riddles.

 

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1.  Why is house cooling like preparing one’s offspring to take over after one has gone?  Both are BLANK  BLANK.

 

2.  What is the difference between a WW II amphibious vehicle and a sneaky landfall by a pirate?

 

3.  What is the difference between a post office locker and tastier smoked salmon?  One is a BLANK while the other is BLANK.

 

4.  It turned out he sewing simply was not strong enough, so the garment opened up revealingly, to the embarrassment of the wearer.  It appeared the BLANK had not adequately allowed for BLANK when sewing the garment.

 

5.  The artistic chef liked to create visually stunning plates of food.  For one memorable meal he arranged various greens in the shape of a castle donjon, and then carefully arranged croutons to represent the surrounding battlements, thus becoming the first to create a BLANK.

 

6.  Women can be sensitive about their figure, as many a man has learned through experience.  This posed a problem for the husband, who was asked to buy BLANK outfits for his wife, but was afraid to BLANK.

 

7.  During World War I, this famous Brit in the Middle East was famous as a landlord who never charged his tenants very much.  Indeed, the BLANK of BLANK were well known throughout the region.

 

 

8.  The big cat had a habit of resting sprawled across the warm macadam roadway, blocking the narrow street.  This greatly impeded foot traffic as few dared to disturb the BLANK  BLANK.

 

9.  The artistic chef had watched in fascination as people filled glasses to various levels, then ran moistened fingers along their rims to produce musical notes.  The notes differed depending upon the sizes of the glasses and how full they were.  He decided he might be able to achieve the same effect with a baking dish, and finally succeeded, becoming the first person to BLANK.

 

10.  The container woven of stiff fibers in Montana had the unfortunate name of BLANK. 

 

11.  In an effort to improve his aim, the archer carefully studied BLANK.

 

12.  The bird fanciers were capturing shorebirds, but alternated among themselves in doing so.  They were BLANK  BLANK.

 

13.  Tennis player Chris was searching in her capacious tennis bag.  Her difficulties caused BLANK to BLANK the bag. 

 

14.  The young bird was snuggling cozily in its arboreal abode.  It could be described as a BLANK  BLANK. 

 

15.  What is the difference between a soft ice cream store and a college official charged with responding to questions?  One is a BLANK while the other is the BLANK.

 

16.  What is the difference between a winter installation and convenience shop in a college residential building?  One is a BLANK while the other is a BLANK.

 

17.  What is the difference between a type of boot and a tattletale?  One is a BLANK while the other is a BLANK.

 

18.  What is the difference between the tympanic membrane and a pirate’s cherished beverage?  One is a BLANK while the other is a BLANK.

 

19.  In her beau’s eyes, she seemed to shine, to glow, but seeing her the morning after a drunken party she had BLANK  BLANK in his eyes.

 

20.  He was a strange young lad, always getting into mischief in the kitchen.  He was particularly intrigued by smearing animal fat all over the pantry.  Yes, he had become a BLANK  BLANK. 

 

BONUS:  Use the first letters of the answers above in order to spell the title of an appropriate Shakespearean play. 

 

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    As always, it would be great to see some new faces this week!  

 

    Please remember to ensure your answers are directed to me.  You should be able just to hit “Reply” (thanks, Norm!),  but to be sure you may address all guesses, surmises, suppositions, estimates, conjectures, SWAG’s, stabs, pokes, and other such directly to me at:

 

parkersan2001@...

 

    Aloha,

 

        Lars


=================================

Re: Upcoming Event: O. Henry Pun-Off World Championships - Sat, 05/09/2020 #cal-reminder

Lee Jackson
 

I forgot it was on the calendar. Sorry.

 - Lee Jackson

On 5/2/2020 12:18 AM, One Sagan via groups.io wrote:
Shouldn´t it be cancelled in the interest of public health

Here I am One Sagan


On Saturday, May 2, 2020, 05:00:16 AM UTC, main@puny.groups.io Calendar <main@puny.groups.io> wrote:


Reminder: O. Henry Pun-Off World Championships

When: Saturday, 9 May 2020

Where:Austin, TX

View Event

Description: The 43rd Annual O. Henry Pun-Off World Championships, information to be found at http://www.punpunpun.com


Re: Upcoming Event: O. Henry Pun-Off World Championships - Sat, 05/09/2020 #cal-reminder

One Sagan
 

Shouldn´t it be cancelled in the interest of public health

Here I am One Sagan


On Saturday, May 2, 2020, 05:00:16 AM UTC, main@puny.groups.io Calendar <main@puny.groups.io> wrote:


Reminder: O. Henry Pun-Off World Championships

When: Saturday, 9 May 2020

Where:Austin, TX

View Event

Description: The 43rd Annual O. Henry Pun-Off World Championships, information to be found at http://www.punpunpun.com

Upcoming Event: O. Henry Pun-Off World Championships - Sat, 05/09/2020 #cal-reminder

main@puny.groups.io Calendar <main@...>
 

Reminder: O. Henry Pun-Off World Championships

When: Saturday, 9 May 2020

Where:Austin, TX

View Event

Description: The 43rd Annual O. Henry Pun-Off World Championships, information to be found at http://www.punpunpun.com

Re: Whither -- or Wither? Seriously....

Lars Hanson
 

Gary,

    A curious comment at the end.  I have used the same style of riddle since the riddle chains which preceded the Rogue Riddles.  (I have a record of the riddles back through a considerable number of them.). Not only that, looking at other riddles, there appear to be pretty much the the same styles over the years.  Perhaps it is we who have changed . . . .

    So far or Learless Feeder has neither weighed nor waded in, so we’re still waitin’.

    Aloha,

        Lars

======================

On May 1, 2020, at 22:15, portagecreek <gypsywagon@...> wrote:

Perhaps the issue is that the Rogue Riddle has morphed into another style of game already. The form of the word games being presently played  would not have attracted me almost a thousand riddles ago and unfortunately they do not now either. They lack the teasing appeal of a riddle and apparently very few others are interested in the current games either.

The "rogues" have gone thru dry periods before with the game tossed back and forth between just a few players. None of us were constantly trying to kill the game at that time. I would appreciate a few people that are stimulated by the challenge of creating and solving a riddle involving PUNS, but frankly, this was Gary's game and we were all just accomplices. I will follow where he goes on this, and if he initiates a rebirth or denies the death here or anywhere - I'm in.

I will hold my congratulations Lars, on getting away with the murder of the rogue for just a bit.

What is the killing of having riddles beyond tomorrows word game?
Lets see could that be Murder in the More Rogue?

Gary Reeves
-----Original Message-----
From: Lee Jackson
Sent: May 1, 2020 11:31 AM
To: main@puny.groups.io
Subject: Re: [puny] Whither -- or Wither? Seriously....

Perhaps a new style of game is called for ...?

On 4/30/2020 12:18 PM, Lars Hanson wrote:

To ask, or not to ask, that is the question:

Whether tis nobler on the list to suffer 

The slings and arrows of outragèd Gary

Or to take action against a growing apathy

And by opposing end them?  To cease, to stop – 

No more – and by a stop to say we end

The efforts and the thousand notional puns

The list is heir to:  ‘tis a dissolution 

Devoutly to be wished.  To cease, to stop,

To stop, perchance to reap:  ay, there’s the rub!

For in that death of riddles what might one reap

When fearless leader finds them gone

Must give us pause:  that’s the aspect

That makes calamity of so long a life,

For who would bear the whips and scorns of list,

The leader’s wrath, the disappointed players,

The loss of riddle sets, the game’s decay,

The absence of guesses and loss of riddle turns

The patient cluing of unworthy takes,

When riddler might his answers make

By simply ceasing?  Who would these burdens bear

By sweat of brow -- the riddler’s weary

But the force of custom weighs upon us all.


    But seriously, a question ....


    This week's Rogue Riddle will mark just under 19.6 years of Rogue Riddles. That's quite a long history.  In fact, there have been over twenty years of riddling on the PUNY list.  Before the Rogue Riddles began, several players among us played with a riddle chain, off-list but similar to what eventually evolved into the Rogue Riddles.


    Lately, however, participation has declined noticeably.  The usual suspects are guessing less and less, and desultorily at best.   Kirk Miller and I have produced the last several riddles alternately between us, with few players competing each time.  As a result, Kirk and I have discussed the fact that it appears the Rogue Riddles may have seen their day and it now is time to stop.


    What is the sense of those on the list about discontinuing the Rogue Riddles after this weekend's  Rogue Riddle #1022 has been played?


    Aloha,

        Lars

=================================


--
Lee Jackson, PUNY group Administrangler
Visit the PUNY and O. Henry Museum Web Sites!
http://punpunpun.com | http://www.austintexas.gov/department/o-henry-museum
https://www.facebook.com/groups/punoff/ | https://www.facebook.com/PUNYPAGE/ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O._Henry_Pun-Off

Re: Whither -- or Wither? Seriously....

portagecreek
 

Perhaps the issue is that the Rogue Riddle has morphed into another style of game already. The form of the word games being presently played  would not have attracted me almost a thousand riddles ago and unfortunately they do not now either. They lack the teasing appeal of a riddle and apparently very few others are interested in the current games either.

The "rogues" have gone thru dry periods before with the game tossed back and forth between just a few players. None of us were constantly trying to kill the game at that time. I would appreciate a few people that are stimulated by the challenge of creating and solving a riddle involving PUNS, but frankly, this was Gary's game and we were all just accomplices. I will follow where he goes on this, and if he initiates a rebirth or denies the death here or anywhere - I'm in.

I will hold my congratulations Lars, on getting away with the murder of the rogue for just a bit.

What is the killing of having riddles beyond tomorrows word game?
Lets see could that be Murder in the More Rogue?

Gary Reeves

-----Original Message-----
From: Lee Jackson
Sent: May 1, 2020 11:31 AM
To: main@puny.groups.io
Subject: Re: [puny] Whither -- or Wither? Seriously....

Perhaps a new style of game is called for ...?

On 4/30/2020 12:18 PM, Lars Hanson wrote:

To ask, or not to ask, that is the question:

Whether tis nobler on the list to suffer 

The slings and arrows of outragèd Gary

Or to take action against a growing apathy

And by opposing end them?  To cease, to stop – 

No more – and by a stop to say we end

The efforts and the thousand notional puns

The list is heir to:  ‘tis a dissolution 

Devoutly to be wished.  To cease, to stop,

To stop, perchance to reap:  ay, there’s the rub!

For in that death of riddles what might one reap

When fearless leader finds them gone

Must give us pause:  that’s the aspect

That makes calamity of so long a life,

For who would bear the whips and scorns of list,

The leader’s wrath, the disappointed players,

The loss of riddle sets, the game’s decay,

The absence of guesses and loss of riddle turns

The patient cluing of unworthy takes,

When riddler might his answers make

By simply ceasing?  Who would these burdens bear

By sweat of brow -- the riddler’s weary

But the force of custom weighs upon us all.


    But seriously, a question ....


    This week's Rogue Riddle will mark just under 19.6 years of Rogue Riddles. That's quite a long history.  In fact, there have been over twenty years of riddling on the PUNY list.  Before the Rogue Riddles began, several players among us played with a riddle chain, off-list but similar to what eventually evolved into the Rogue Riddles.


    Lately, however, participation has declined noticeably.  The usual suspects are guessing less and less, and desultorily at best.   Kirk Miller and I have produced the last several riddles alternately between us, with few players competing each time.  As a result, Kirk and I have discussed the fact that it appears the Rogue Riddles may have seen their day and it now is time to stop.


    What is the sense of those on the list about discontinuing the Rogue Riddles after this weekend's  Rogue Riddle #1022 has been played?


    Aloha,

        Lars

=================================


--
Lee Jackson, PUNY group Administrangler
Visit the PUNY and O. Henry Museum Web Sites!
http://punpunpun.com | http://www.austintexas.gov/department/o-henry-museum
https://www.facebook.com/groups/punoff/ | https://www.facebook.com/PUNYPAGE/ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O._Henry_Pun-Off

Rogue Riddle 1022 - Advance Notice

Lars Hanson
 

All,

 

    This week's Rogue Riddle collection will be launched tomorrow (Saturday) morning by around 10:00 am EDT.  As has been discussed, it appears that after a run of more than 19½  years, this will be the last of the Rogue Riddles.  Actually, the riddle games have been running for more than twenty years, as a "riddle chain" with much the same rules as the Rogue Riddles was played by a half dozen PUNY players off-list.


    As noted yesterday, it appears this will be the last of the Rogue Riddles.


    Perhaps, as Lee has suggested, a different sort of game is needed.


    Or perhaps none.


    Aloha,

        Lars

=================================

Re: Whither -- or Wither? Seriously....

Lee Jackson
 

Perhaps a new style of game is called for ...?

On 4/30/2020 12:18 PM, Lars Hanson wrote:

To ask, or not to ask, that is the question:

Whether tis nobler on the list to suffer 

The slings and arrows of outragèd Gary

Or to take action against a growing apathy

And by opposing end them?  To cease, to stop – 

No more – and by a stop to say we end

The efforts and the thousand notional puns

The list is heir to:  ‘tis a dissolution 

Devoutly to be wished.  To cease, to stop,

To stop, perchance to reap:  ay, there’s the rub!

For in that death of riddles what might one reap

When fearless leader finds them gone

Must give us pause:  that’s the aspect

That makes calamity of so long a life,

For who would bear the whips and scorns of list,

The leader’s wrath, the disappointed players,

The loss of riddle sets, the game’s decay,

The absence of guesses and loss of riddle turns

The patient cluing of unworthy takes,

When riddler might his answers make

By simply ceasing?  Who would these burdens bear

By sweat of brow -- the riddler’s weary

But the force of custom weighs upon us all.


    But seriously, a question ....


    This week's Rogue Riddle will mark just under 19.6 years of Rogue Riddles. That's quite a long history.  In fact, there have been over twenty years of riddling on the PUNY list.  Before the Rogue Riddles began, several players among us played with a riddle chain, off-list but similar to what eventually evolved into the Rogue Riddles.


    Lately, however, participation has declined noticeably.  The usual suspects are guessing less and less, and desultorily at best.   Kirk Miller and I have produced the last several riddles alternately between us, with few players competing each time.  As a result, Kirk and I have discussed the fact that it appears the Rogue Riddles may have seen their day and it now is time to stop.


    What is the sense of those on the list about discontinuing the Rogue Riddles after this weekend's  Rogue Riddle #1022 has been played?


    Aloha,

        Lars

=================================


Re: Whither -- or Wither? Seriously....

One Sagan
 

Not sure. Maybe some of the following as well as other reasons. 
Sometimes I have no clue as to the answers.
Sometimes I find them to be a bit contrived.
Sometimes I forget to look at them.


Here I am One Sagan


On Thursday, April 30, 2020, 10:47:10 PM UTC, Lars Hanson <parkersan2001@...> wrote:


One Sagan,

   So, why the change?  Did you get bored with the riddles?  More interested in other things?

    And yes, I shall get me to as punnery with trumpets — a toot suite, if you will.

    Aloha,

        Lars

======================

On Apr 30, 2020, at 18:33, One Sagan via groups.io <one_sagan@...> wrote:


Whatever you decide to do is fine with me. I used to be an avid participant once upon a time, but no longer.
After your soliloquy you do realize that somebody here is going to say, "Get thee to a punnery." But I won't say it.

Here I am One Sagan


On Thursday, April 30, 2020, 05:22:10 PM UTC, Lars Hanson <parkersan2001@...> wrote:


To ask, or not to ask, that is the question:

Whether tis nobler on the list to suffer 

The slings and arrows of outragèd Gary

Or to take action against a growing apathy

And by opposing end them?  To cease, to stop – 

No more – and by a stop to say we end

The efforts and the thousand notional puns

The list is heir to:  ‘tis a dissolution 

Devoutly to be wished.  To cease, to stop,

To stop, perchance to reap:  ay, there’s the rub!

For in that death of riddles what might one reap

When fearless leader finds them gone

Must give us pause:  that’s the aspect

That makes calamity of so long a life,

For who would bear the whips and scorns of list,

The leader’s wrath, the disappointed players,

The loss of riddle sets, the game’s decay,

The absence of guesses and loss of riddle turns

The patient cluing of unworthy takes,

When riddler might his answers make

By simply ceasing?  Who would these burdens bear

By sweat of brow -- the riddler’s weary

But the force of custom weighs upon us all.


    But seriously, a question ....


    This week's Rogue Riddle will mark just under 19.6 years of Rogue Riddles. That's quite a long history.  In fact, there have been over twenty years of riddling on the PUNY list.  Before the Rogue Riddles began, several players among us played with a riddle chain, off-list but similar to what eventually evolved into the Rogue Riddles.


    Lately, however, participation has declined noticeably.  The usual suspects are guessing less and less, and desultorily at best.   Kirk Miller and I have produced the last several riddles alternately between us, with few players competing each time.  As a result, Kirk and I have discussed the fact that it appears the Rogue Riddles may have seen their day and it now is time to stop.


    What is the sense of those on the list about discontinuing the Rogue Riddles after this weekend's  Rogue Riddle #1022 has been played?


    Aloha,

        Lars

=================================

Re: Whither -- or Wither? Seriously....

bill crider
 

I participated regularly for several years, but have not so much recently. So I am one of those to blame for the decline. 
In my case, there are several factors Primarily, my weekends got much busier than they used to be. For the last few years I have been rehabbing houses on the weekends and it takes up all my time. When I get home I am too tired to riddle. Guess I'm getting old.
But a second factor was that i think the style of the riddles changed a lot. Each of us has a style we like. Personally, Kirk's is my favorite style, followed closely by Gary H. I  grok their mindset and get their puns instinctively. I have a harder time with grasping what other folks they are going for. That is not a criticism of them, it is just that I am not on the same wavelength or something. 
Some of the other folks that dropped off also had a similar style or mindset.
I used to participate in the F-riddles also, and of course those also faded away. Sigh. Remember back in the good old days, kiddos?
Everything has its season. 
billcrider

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 12:18 PM Lars Hanson <parkersan2001@...> wrote:

To ask, or not to ask, that is the question:

Whether tis nobler on the list to suffer 

The slings and arrows of outragèd Gary

Or to take action against a growing apathy

And by opposing end them?  To cease, to stop – 

No more – and by a stop to say we end

The efforts and the thousand notional puns

The list is heir to:  ‘tis a dissolution 

Devoutly to be wished.  To cease, to stop,

To stop, perchance to reap:  ay, there’s the rub!

For in that death of riddles what might one reap

When fearless leader finds them gone

Must give us pause:  that’s the aspect

That makes calamity of so long a life,

For who would bear the whips and scorns of list,

The leader’s wrath, the disappointed players,

The loss of riddle sets, the game’s decay,

The absence of guesses and loss of riddle turns

The patient cluing of unworthy takes,

When riddler might his answers make

By simply ceasing?  Who would these burdens bear

By sweat of brow -- the riddler’s weary

But the force of custom weighs upon us all.


    But seriously, a question ....


    This week's Rogue Riddle will mark just under 19.6 years of Rogue Riddles. That's quite a long history.  In fact, there have been over twenty years of riddling on the PUNY list.  Before the Rogue Riddles began, several players among us played with a riddle chain, off-list but similar to what eventually evolved into the Rogue Riddles.


    Lately, however, participation has declined noticeably.  The usual suspects are guessing less and less, and desultorily at best.   Kirk Miller and I have produced the last several riddles alternately between us, with few players competing each time.  As a result, Kirk and I have discussed the fact that it appears the Rogue Riddles may have seen their day and it now is time to stop.


    What is the sense of those on the list about discontinuing the Rogue Riddles after this weekend's  Rogue Riddle #1022 has been played?


    Aloha,

        Lars

=================================

Re: Whither -- or Wither? Seriously....

doug
 

I'm with Kirk and tend to agree
The riddles aren't what they used to be
But instead of end
Why not suspend...
Just don't pull the Rogue out from under me!

Doug
==================
One Sagan,

   So, why the change?  Did you get bored with the riddles?  More interested in other things?

    And yes, I shall get me to as punnery with trumpets — a toot suite, if you will.

    Aloha,

        Lars

======================

On Apr 30, 2020, at 18:33, One Sagan via groups.io <one_sagan@...> wrote:


Whatever you decide to do is fine with me. I used to be an avid participant once upon a time, but no longer.
After your soliloquy you do realize that somebody here is going to say, "Get thee to a punnery." But I won't say it.

Here I am One Sagan


On Thursday, April 30, 2020, 05:22:10 PM UTC, Lars Hanson <parkersan2001@...> wrote:


To ask, or not to ask, that is the question:
Whether tis nobler on the list to suffer 
The slings and arrows of outragèd Gary
Or to take action against a growing apathy
And by opposing end them?  To cease, to stop – 
No more – and by a stop to say we end
The efforts and the thousand notional puns
The list is heir to:  ‘tis a dissolution 
Devoutly to be wished.  To cease, to stop,
To stop, perchance to reap:  ay, there’s the rub!
For in that death of riddles what might one reap
When fearless leader finds them gone
Must give us pause:  that’s the aspect
That makes calamity of so long a life,
For who would bear the whips and scorns of list,
The leader’s wrath, the disappointed players,
The loss of riddle sets, the game’s decay,
The absence of guesses and loss of riddle turns
The patient cluing of unworthy takes,
When riddler might his answers make
By simply ceasing?  Who would these burdens bear
By sweat of brow -- the riddler’s weary
But the force of custom weighs upon us all.

    But seriously, a question ....

    This week's Rogue Riddle will mark just under 19.6 years of Rogue Riddles. That's quite a long history.  In fact, there have been over twenty years of riddling on the PUNY list.  Before the Rogue Riddles began, several players among us played with a riddle chain, off-list but similar to what eventually evolved into the Rogue Riddles.

    Lately, however, participation has declined noticeably.  The usual suspects are guessing less and less, and desultorily at best.   Kirk Miller and I have produced the last several riddles alternately between us, with few players competing each time.  As a result, Kirk and I have discussed the fact that it appears the Rogue Riddles may have seen their day and it now is time to stop.

    What is the sense of those on the list about discontinuing the Rogue Riddles after this weekend's  Rogue Riddle #1022 has been played?

    Aloha,

        Lars

=================================


--
Doug Spector