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I concur with Doug on the F-Riddles. They were quick and a lot of fun.
Reading all these threads is a screaming cry for the return of the F-Riddles and to give the Rogues their proper burial
Actually, the art-ups have been carefully worded to provide the context. In many cases the definition of the answer is included in the setup. In most cases, reading the setup will provide the needed clues. Concepts and content also are to be found in most setups. The most successful approach is to use all of the information provided in the setup.
Nor do I use "crossword-style" clues. Anything but! :-D
Many, myself included, have found letter counts (which also provide word counts) useful. Some obviously do not.
Yet again, it appears that a graduated approach really is going to be required. Not all people on PUNY are of equal problem-solving ability, as is to ne expected. Make themes simple enough for all to solve readily, and some will find the riddles too simple. Make therm kore complex, and many, if not most, will find them too daunting. So why not run, say, three levels of riddles? There would be one for beginners, one for intermediates, and one for the more experienced.
Perhaps making the riddles a bit easier or giving clearer clues would help. No offense meant here Lars, but i find your “crossword puzzle style” clues impenetrable. That is not a criticism of you - they just don’t trigger whatever my mind needs to solve the puzzles. Word counts don’t really help either. Concepts or context are what i need.
I'm with Ray. Sometimes, I maynard understand the riddles that seem to be coming from another atmosphere...I guess we're on the wrong plane
From: Ray Maynard <ray@...
Sent: Mon, May 4, 2020 1:09 am
Subject: Re: [puny] Rogue Riddle Demise?
I'll just offer this as an independent opinion from one clearly not
one of the elites in this group. For me, the Rogue Riddles are
simply way over my head. I looked at the first few of them that I
saw and quickly concluded that "these guys are in the stratosphere
somewhere." I simply don't get them, so I don't participate. I enjoy
puns. That's why I'm a member of the group, but the riddles are just
way beyond my comprehension level. Perhaps that's the real reason
for the lack of participation, or at least part of it.
what about offering a small prize to each week's
winner, like a $5 gift card to Starbucks (I send these all the
time via email for my business)
From: Lars Hanson <parkersan2001@...>
To: PUNY <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Sent: Sun, May 3, 2020 1:49 pm
Subject: [puny] Rogue Riddle Demise?
There seems to
be some sort of misapprehension her about my and Kirk's
statement on the Rogue Riddles.
Neither Kirk nor
I have any particular desire to see the Rogue Riddles
end. Nor have we any particular desire to kill off the
Rogue Riddles. If anything, it is the general lack of
participation in the riddles which is killing them off.
the past several weeks during which Kirk and I simply
traded Rogue Riddle sets with little or no
participation by anyone else, and perfunctory other
participation at best, it seemed yo us the game was
dead. Our conclusion that perhaps the Rogue Riddles
have seen their day was based upon that lack of
participation, and was not the result of any
sinister motivations on our parts.
It takes time
and effort to create and then administrate a Rogue
Riddle series. The more interesting and intriguing the
riddles are, the more time and effort is required. That
time and effort is rewarded by the responses from the
players. No responses, no reward. Quite frankly, if
only one other person really is into the game, then it
seems the game is dead. Hence our notes here.
If someone wants
to continue the game, that's perfectly fine with me
(and, I suspect, with Kirk). I have enjoyed and been an
avid participant in the riddles since they began as an
off-list Riddle Chain over twenty years ago. If others
want to see the Rogue Riddles continue, then the best
remedy is to participate.