Re: Whither -- or Wither? Seriously....


Perhaps the issue is that the Rogue Riddle has morphed into another style of game already. The form of the word games being presently played  would not have attracted me almost a thousand riddles ago and unfortunately they do not now either. They lack the teasing appeal of a riddle and apparently very few others are interested in the current games either.

The "rogues" have gone thru dry periods before with the game tossed back and forth between just a few players. None of us were constantly trying to kill the game at that time. I would appreciate a few people that are stimulated by the challenge of creating and solving a riddle involving PUNS, but frankly, this was Gary's game and we were all just accomplices. I will follow where he goes on this, and if he initiates a rebirth or denies the death here or anywhere - I'm in.

I will hold my congratulations Lars, on getting away with the murder of the rogue for just a bit.

What is the killing of having riddles beyond tomorrows word game?
Lets see could that be Murder in the More Rogue?

Gary Reeves

-----Original Message-----
From: Lee Jackson
Sent: May 1, 2020 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [puny] Whither -- or Wither? Seriously....

Perhaps a new style of game is called for ...?

On 4/30/2020 12:18 PM, Lars Hanson wrote:

To ask, or not to ask, that is the question:

Whether tis nobler on the list to suffer 

The slings and arrows of outragèd Gary

Or to take action against a growing apathy

And by opposing end them?  To cease, to stop – 

No more – and by a stop to say we end

The efforts and the thousand notional puns

The list is heir to:  ‘tis a dissolution 

Devoutly to be wished.  To cease, to stop,

To stop, perchance to reap:  ay, there’s the rub!

For in that death of riddles what might one reap

When fearless leader finds them gone

Must give us pause:  that’s the aspect

That makes calamity of so long a life,

For who would bear the whips and scorns of list,

The leader’s wrath, the disappointed players,

The loss of riddle sets, the game’s decay,

The absence of guesses and loss of riddle turns

The patient cluing of unworthy takes,

When riddler might his answers make

By simply ceasing?  Who would these burdens bear

By sweat of brow -- the riddler’s weary

But the force of custom weighs upon us all.

    But seriously, a question ....

    This week's Rogue Riddle will mark just under 19.6 years of Rogue Riddles. That's quite a long history.  In fact, there have been over twenty years of riddling on the PUNY list.  Before the Rogue Riddles began, several players among us played with a riddle chain, off-list but similar to what eventually evolved into the Rogue Riddles.

    Lately, however, participation has declined noticeably.  The usual suspects are guessing less and less, and desultorily at best.   Kirk Miller and I have produced the last several riddles alternately between us, with few players competing each time.  As a result, Kirk and I have discussed the fact that it appears the Rogue Riddles may have seen their day and it now is time to stop.

    What is the sense of those on the list about discontinuing the Rogue Riddles after this weekend's  Rogue Riddle #1022 has been played?




Lee Jackson, PUNY group Administrangler
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